Tonights episode will be a great episode, with the usual suspects, Jonathon Menges, Myself, Howard Brown, Robert J Mclaughlin. Special Guest this evening is none other than, Stephen P Ryder Author and Researcher Paul Begg will be joining us also to chat to Stephen, so this should be one fantastic show!! Rippercast, Home of the Whitechapel Murders Podcast, http://www.rippernet.com/Rippercast/…t/Podcast.html To participate, give feedback or find out more contact, Jonathon rippernet@mac.com Myself mcebe@hotmail.co.uk Howard Brown donston1888@aol.com Threads for discussing the Podcasts have been set up at, Jtrforums.com Rippercasebook.org |
This was initially posted on the Origional Blogg which was sadly lost, so here it is again folks!! I awoke 15 minutes before my alarm went off, and excitedly jumped from the bed, only to hear the wind and rain against the window! After my wife and I got ready the Taxi arrived (she was sharing a cab into town) as we set off we went via the backstreets, passing both the former site of Willows House and Charles Street were RDS was born. How weird that several hours later I would be at a place were he spent his final years Islington. The train was on time and the journey was smooth and at a total cost of £80 for a return ticket a good buy. We arrived in London on time and I made my way for the Taxi rank, and chartered a Taxi to Islington Local Studies/Archives. On arriving at the Archives I was greeted and sat down at a microfilm reader, to view the Trade Directories I had asked for. (all my findings will be posted on the RDS Suspect Threads) As I left after several hours I purchased some maps covering Islington, Highbury and Upper Holloway. I also bought a book on London Victorian Crime. As I left I noticed the wind and the rain had arrived in London, but continued my trek onwards. Upon arriving I was suprised that the Archives are not a part of the Hospital but stand just off Lemen Street, as I was early I visited Lemen Street to get some pictures of RDS alleged Bolthole!! Eventually I found myself in the search room which was suprisingly relaxed were I met Jonathon Evans, the senior archivist. I was suprised at how busy the High Street was, an Indian Street market was in full swing, and I felt strangley out of place. I noticed the chained up entrance to Wood’s Buildings and headed further up the High Street so that I may double back onto Durward Street (Bucks Row). I got some good pictures in this area and was almost run over trying to get some pictures of the whole length of Bucks Row. I headed back onto Whitechapel High Street and walked along until i came across Gunthorpe Street, I entered the dark alleyway and took a coupel of pictures but soon hurried back onto Whitechapel High Street as a group of youths were eyeing up my digicam. I continued up the High Street and decided to turn off towards Mitre Street and Mitre Square, which was smaller than I expected, but as the sun was setting quite an eerie place. I didn’t see the ghost of Mary Kelly! Nor did any pavements glow!! As i had been on my feet all day i decided to call it a night and set off in search of Kings Cross, eventually getting the Tube from Liverpool Station, which was like being a sardine stuck in a tiny tin!! I found no shops selling any books or merchandise related to the ripper, nor did i find any shops selling London related memoribillia, but i thorughly enjoyed my adventure. On returning to Kings Cross, i made way for Burger King and sat on the platform going over the day. The train was ontime and on the way home i took out my notes, and began reading through them, when the lady sat opposite told me her and her father were both born in Whitechapel. He used to run a stall in the Spitalfields Market and would often tell tales of the Ripper. As we pulled into Hull it was approaching 9.30 and i was knackered, i hailed a taxi and headed home. I had a great time in London and I am returning soon, hopefully in the Summer, this time im taking the missus!! Here are brief notes of the findings, Robert D’Onston Stephenson was at the Hospital without the approval of a hospital governor. This is ascertained by the “With or Without Ticket” heading on his admission and discharge papers. (2) Davis ward was a private ward, in the sense that four beds were partitioned off from the rest of the wards, there is no record of anyone else staying with him in that room. (3) To gain admittance to the hospital he had to attend a pre admission meeting, if succesful he could gain entrance, which we know he did. (4) Curry ward was a ward with about 20 beds in. (5) Both wards were on the 3rd floor, and at nights the gates were locked. The only way in was through the lodge at the front, or for emergancies. (6) The gates stand at around 7ft high!!! (7) There are no daily records in existance before 1900!!! There are yearly review books but these covered finances and not individual patients. Other information recorded was the names of Wards and how big they were, names of those who donated, names of those who left money to the hospital in their last will and testament. (9) There were meeting minutes, covering 1888, 1889 with some notes regarding patients, but alas No Robert D’Onston Stephenson. (10) There is also no mention of there being an investigation into Dr Davis activities during this period. (11) Islington, There are no entries in the Burgess Rolls for either of the Stephenson brothers. (13) I got some maps of Hollingsworth Road North, and it is almost slum like, the archivist told me that these houses were the lowest class. I will post these maps up later. Much of this area was destroyed in the slum clearance and the blitz, the spot were Robert D’Onston Stephenson lived is now a childrens park. (14) Gibson Square were Richard Stephenson Jnr resided is however a large, gardened property, in a High Class district!! Gibson Square still stands and is part of a Conservation Scheme. (15) I also got a map of the Islington Workhouse were Robert D’Onston Stephenson was reported in the 1901 Census, the place no longer exists and is now private housing. (16) I will post the transcribed register entries in full with explainations for each field later. References to brief notes Entrance was granted via a caretaker at the front of the hospital who lived in the lodge, he granted access to Staff and emergancies. This obviously poses a problem as RDS was a patient and would not have had the authority to enter or leave. The yearbooks show that the hospital was under fiancial strain, now if RDs was given a pass to enter and leave, surely he would be discharged altogether, to save the hospital finacially. One entry in the Yearbooks made me sit up and take note and regarded the length of time that patients are to stay, and the least time in hospital the better. Only serious cases are to stay under the watchful eye of the staff. Although no maps of the upper floors of the hospital are in exsistance there is a ground floor plan in the 1889 yearbook stating the size and location of both Davis and Curry Ward. Jonathan Evans also mentioned that the Hospital was locked down at night for several reasons. Transcription of 1888 Patients Registry Date July 26th Notes on the above The Recommended by field has entries on other patients of Doctors who have reffered this candidate to hospital, as RDS does not have one it appears he went to the hospital on his own accord and not through the regular avenue of a Dr. Red Ink is fairly common in the registers, there were several entries with Red Ink alterations, and it was also used under the column for those who had died whilst in care. The classifications under status fall into only two catagories, As mentioned earlier both Davis and Curry are third floor wards. Transcription of patients Register 1889 Date May 13th Notes on the above The Recommended by field has entries on other patients of Doctors who have reffered this candidate to hospital, as RDS does not have one it appears he went to the hospital on his own accord and not through the regular avenue of a Dr. The classifications under status fall into only two catagories, As mentioned earlier both Davis and Curry are third floor wards. Notes from Annual Report 1888/89 Davis Ward is named after william and John Davis, who were father and son and listed as VP’s. The naming took place in 1870, and consisted of 4 small wards for men, each consisting of 4 beds. Currie Ward is named after Leonard Currie and Sir Edmund Hay Currie, who were again father and son and listed as VP’s. The naming took place in 1870 and the ward consisted of around 20 beds. 5 Physicians and 5 Surgeons have charge of the patients, ward nurses and sisters are also present, but usually move around no no specific number could be given. The 1889 Annual report stated that DR Sutton visited his inpatients every Monday and Wednsday. Cost per bed for 1888/1889 was listed as There was also a Classified Return of Results of Inspection carried out on Patients who stayed over a set period of usually 1 month. The information regarding the ward locations and floor they were situated on can be found in the book, I did ask for Workhouse Records at the Islington local studies centre and the archivist disapeared for a while, making me quite excited but then returned with a general file showing end of year figures instead of inividual entries. He did remark that these workhouses were the end of the line for a lot of people, especially if they were struggling fiancially and with their health. Hollingsworth Street North is just 5 minutes away from St James’s Church were RDS tied the knot. Gibson Square is further away but again is minutes away from a Wesleayan/ Methodist Chapel, and a church called Holy Trinity Church. Its like the advert £80 Train Ticket |
The Ripper Podcast, The story so far, The Ripper Podcast was an Idea devised by Jonathon Menges, and has exceeded everyones expectations, it really is growing more than we could ever have imagined. The podcast is up and running!!!! Episode 1; SUDDEN DEATH A Discussion of Robert Donston Stevenson 1 hour 20 min. With: Howard Brown and Myself and a host who needs a new microphone…. Jonathan Menges. With, from Western Canada, Robert J. McLaughlin, author of The First Jack the Ripper Victim Photographs, Howard Brown in Philly, our man in Hull Mike Covell, and myself. Episode 3; Jack the Ripper on Film, Jonathon Menges, Myself, Howard Brown, Robert J. McLaughlin and special guest Justin Dombrowski. Episode 4; Sour Grapes: Myths From The Whitechapel Murders with very special guest Dan Norder Special thanks to Dan Norder, How, Mike and Robert for making a great show! Episode 5; The Barrister of Bright Talent: Ripper Suspect Montague John Druitt with Special Guest Andy Spallek, Jonathon Menges, Myself, Hoaward brown and Robert J. McLaughlin. Episode 6; Martha Tabram, with Jonathon Menges, Myself, Howard Brown and Robert J. McLaughlin. Episode 7, Philip Hutchinson, the Tourguide from Hell. With Philip hutchinson, Myself, Jonathon Menges, Howard Brown and Robert J. Mclaughlin. Rippercast, Home of the Whitechapel Murders Podcast, http://www.rippernet.com/Rippercast/…t/Podcast.html To participate, give feedback or find out more contact, Jonathon rippernet@mac.com Myself mcebe@hotmail.co.uk Howard Brown donston1888@aol.com |
£100 article winner!! Local newspaper Hull Daily Mail, has set a website up entitled Your Mail The website is desgined to give resident a say in their town and community, post their views, set up clubs and spread the word. Being opinionated I joined the site last week and within a couple of days I had posted over 15 news stories on everything from Jack the Ripper, to local history. Imagine my suprise when I got an email this morning stating I had won £100 for my articles!! I was congratulated on my historical entries and my passion for my community!! Here are some of my posts, which you can copy and paste into your search bar. http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_patch/view/3094-royal-station-hotel-a-tribute- http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_patch/view/2514-jack-the-ripper-from-hell-from-hull- http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_patch/view/2677-jack-the-ripper-from-hell-from-hull-2 http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_patch/view/3092-what-will-happen-to-the-cornmill-hotel- |
Magistrates papers can be anywere from a single sheet to a whole file, depending upon the amount of witnesses, or accused!! I have looked over several Magistrates Papers right through the 1800’s and they are little gems full of useful information. I have looked over Magistrate Papers where my “Target” has been accused of a crime, this is useful because it helps build up a profile of the person, and what they were doing in that given period. Other files I have looked at include the “Target” being the person who has witnessed the crime and is testifying against the accused! Again these are useful becuase it helps build a picture on the “Targets” moral stance. At the Moment I am attempting to transcribe a massive file on Richard Stephenson senior, and another file on Robert Dawber!! Both are enormous and likely to take some time to work through! Another idea is to cross reference any Magistrate Papers with Local Newspapers, especially the Week’s/days Police, this might well contain further information. Next time, Telephone books. |
A letter book is a thick book, full of letters sent from a Council or Corporation in respnse to Mail they have recieved. Whilst researching the Stephenson Family I was privy to several of Hull Corporation’s Letter Books which had correspondance to Richard Stephenson Jnr, at Willows House regarding his finances. These help build a bigger picture of the family and what they were doing at that given period. Although they are usually massive books they are worth looking through as they can include lots of wonderful information. Next time, Magistrates Papers |
I have to admit, I love old newspapers, the wonderful print, the way they are set and of course the many wonderful stories they contain. I was suprised just how many Hull Newspapers there have been over the years, possibly due to the popularity of the city during the whale trade, and later the fishing industry. I first began trawling through the newspapers in the Local Study Library for the work I was doing on Robert D’Onston Stephenson and family, This took me from the early 1800’s right up to 1889, and resulted in some great finds. Later I decided to look at the 4 Newspapers that were in operation during 1888, there were more, but records of the newspapers are no longer in existance. In looking through these newspapers, I have discovered that, there were more stories regarding the Whitechapel Murders, many of which came from The London based Newspapers, but also quite a few from the Journalists based in London reporting for the Hull newspapers. Newspapers are mainly kept on Microfilm, this is a quick and easy way to search, without ruining the newspaper. When using this facility I am often given an over ride key as I have been known to spend a small fortune at every sitting. Your Local Studies Centre or Archives should have a selection of newspapers available. Many of the finds I post on the various ripper websites to enable further study, but some I have used for articles. Next time, Letter Books |
Hi guys, thanks for the great feedback, I wasn’t aware that the Jewish record holders reacted like that, but I have to admit I have never contacted them. So Birth, Marriage and Death records, or BMD’s Name, These records enable you to find the person you are looking for , once found this information can be used to obtain Birth Certificates, the records do not contain parents records, Marriage Again all the vital info needed to order a Marriage Certificate, but unfortunalty they do not contain the name of the spouse! Death, All the neccesary pieces of information to order a Death Certificate, unfortunalty the records do not hold “Cause of death”. With all the info from all the fields you can now succesfully order certificates, these go a little deeper into it, and contain lots of information to help you in your research. I will post info about these at a later date. With brief dates in hand you can also check Newspapers, these may carry stories of, or announcements. Online BMD’s Next time, Newspapers |
For many years I was trained in Map reading, especially in the Rural areas of the UK. I was taught how to read contour lines, plan times of routes and chose the paths of least resistance. In reading maps I was also able to utilise skills such as triangulating my position from one small feature on the landscape and cross referencing it with the map. This skill has proved invaluble in my local history research, as much of the landscape in Hull has changed. A good period map will show, The size of property owned, The size of property lived in, The size of business owned or worked in, Location of business, Location of property, Location of ameneties, Distance between business and property, I love maps and map reading, the bigger the scale the better, although it depends on the detail you require. Most Local Study Centre’s and Libraries hold maps, covering various scales, areas and years. Next time, Burgess Rolls |
Trade Directories are one of my fave Primary Sources when researching, they were usually released yearly and several companies may have released several different versions, which is great, as some might contain more info than others. Trade directories usually contain the following info, History to date of the area, List of advertisers, A-Z of Street Names, Numerical entry of house, by street, including occupant, A-Z of Surnames, A-Z of Companies, A-Z of Trades and Proffessions, General area info, Next time, Maps and Map reading |
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