Comments for Christopher T. George http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge Reflections of a Ripperologist Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:01:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 Comment on A “New Face” for Mary Jane Kelly by Saponarol http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/08/a-%e2%80%9cnew-face%e2%80%9d-for-mary-jane-kelly/#comment-1996 Saponarol Sun, 21 Feb 2016 17:54:50 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/08/a-%e2%80%9cnew-face%e2%80%9d-for-mary-jane-kelly/#comment-1996 Barbara, Ancestry turns up 300 Mary Collyers in England. Researchers would have to look at every one and eliminate based on who can be found alive after 1888 and has no other death record, cross- referencing with marriages and married names. It's a daunting task even if her real name was Kelly, with Ancestry giving some help with cross-referencing your searches. The closest thing to Collyer might be Karen Trenouth's Collis which comes from the alleged Abberline diary. Barbara,
Ancestry turns up 300 Mary Collyers in England. Researchers would have to look at every one and eliminate based on who can be found alive after 1888 and has no other death record, cross- referencing with marriages and married names. It’s a daunting task even if her real name was Kelly, with Ancestry giving some help with cross-referencing your searches.
The closest thing to Collyer might be Karen Trenouth’s Collis which comes from the alleged Abberline diary.

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Comment on The Lodger: From Page to Stage to Screen by http://www.thehotellancaster.com http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/11/13/the-lodger-from-page-to-stage-to-screen/#comment-1992 http://www.thehotellancaster.com Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:51:06 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/11/13/the-lodger-from-page-to-stage-to-screen/#comment-1992 I'm usually running a blog and I really appreciate your content. I’m usually running a blog and I really appreciate your content.

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Comment on Early American Commentators on the Ripper Case by Proxy List http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/15/early-american-commentators-on-the-ripper-case/#comment-1982 Proxy List Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:38:02 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/15/early-american-commentators-on-the-ripper-case/#comment-1982 Greetings I am so excited I found your site, I really found you by accident, while I was researching on Bing for something else, Anyways I am here now and would just like to say cheers for a incredible post and a all round thrilling blog (I also love the theme/design), I don’t have time to read through it all at the moment but I have bookmarked it and also added your RSS feeds, so when I have time I will be back to read much more, Please do keep up the fantastic work. Greetings I am so excited I found your site, I really found you by accident, while I was researching on Bing for something else, Anyways I am here now and would just like to say cheers for a incredible post and a all round thrilling blog (I also love the theme/design), I don’t have time to read through it all at the moment but I have bookmarked it and also added your RSS feeds, so when I have time I will be back to read much more, Please do keep up the fantastic work.

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Comment on City P.C. George H. Hutt, Police Poet, and the Issue of Horse Cruelty by admin http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/09/08/city-pc-george-h-hutt-police-poet-and-the-issue-of-horse-cruelty/#comment-1970 admin Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:17:26 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/09/08/city-pc-george-h-hutt-police-poet-and-the-issue-of-horse-cruelty/#comment-1970 Thank you, Susannah, for mentioning my blog posting on P.C. Hutt in your blog http://susannaforrest.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/talking-horses-honhy-honhy-hon-a-victorian-policeman-is-saluted/ Thank you, Susannah, for mentioning my blog posting on P.C. Hutt in your blog http://susannaforrest.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/talking-horses-honhy-honhy-hon-a-victorian-policeman-is-saluted/

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Comment on City P.C. George H. Hutt, Police Poet, and the Issue of Horse Cruelty by Talking Horses: Honhy, Honhy, Hon! A Victorian Policeman is Saluted. | If Wishes Were Horses http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/09/08/city-pc-george-h-hutt-police-poet-and-the-issue-of-horse-cruelty/#comment-1969 Talking Horses: Honhy, Honhy, Hon! A Victorian Policeman is Saluted. | If Wishes Were Horses Sun, 29 Jun 2014 05:30:13 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/09/08/city-pc-george-h-hutt-police-poet-and-the-issue-of-horse-cruelty/#comment-1969 [...] to horses. This poem was written “on behalf” of those horses by George H Hutt in 1892. Read more about Hutt – “the police poet” – and Pegg here, along with a collection of... “A Horse’s Letter to Ex-Police Constable 365 John [...] […] to horses. This poem was written “on behalf” of those horses by George H Hutt in 1892. Read more about Hutt – “the police poet” – and Pegg here, along with a collection of… “A Horse’s Letter to Ex-Police Constable 365 John […]

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Comment on A “New Face” for Mary Jane Kelly by Barbara McNeill http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/08/a-%e2%80%9cnew-face%e2%80%9d-for-mary-jane-kelly/#comment-1960 Barbara McNeill Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:41:35 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/08/a-%e2%80%9cnew-face%e2%80%9d-for-mary-jane-kelly/#comment-1960 Because MJK is believed to have been Irish,both by birth and parentage, it seems to be assumed that she was Catholic, but this may not be the case. If she married a Welshman, he could have been Methodist, and it is MOST unlikely that an underage Catholic Irish girl would be permitted to marry "out". If she did, this would have caused a major family split. Mixed marriages were still frowned upon in my own youth! There has to be a reason why she was so utterly estranged from her family! So, has anyone been checking the Welsh non-Catholic records for a marriage of these two, and has anyone else wondered if Collyer was the groom's real name? Another thought; IF she had a French mother, then, although named Marie Jeanette, she was probably addressed as Jeanette, as prefixing saint's names with "Marie" is a French custom. Jeanette is a diminutive- she may well have been officially named Marie Jeanne. As I have no resources to check on all this, I'm just throwing out ideas in the hope that someone can respond. Because MJK is believed to have been Irish,both by birth and parentage, it seems to be assumed that she was Catholic, but this may not be the case. If she married a Welshman, he could have been Methodist, and it is MOST unlikely that an underage Catholic Irish girl would be permitted to marry “out”. If she did, this would have caused a major family split. Mixed marriages were still frowned upon in my own youth! There has to be a reason why she was so utterly estranged from her family! So, has anyone been checking the Welsh non-Catholic records for a marriage of these two, and has anyone else wondered if Collyer was the groom’s real name? Another thought; IF she had a French mother, then, although named Marie Jeanette, she was probably addressed as Jeanette, as prefixing saint’s names with “Marie” is a French custom. Jeanette is a diminutive- she may well have been officially named Marie Jeanne. As I have no resources to check on all this, I’m just throwing out ideas in the hope that someone can respond.

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Comment on A “New Face” for Mary Jane Kelly by Barbara McNeill http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/08/a-%e2%80%9cnew-face%e2%80%9d-for-mary-jane-kelly/#comment-1959 Barbara McNeill Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:30:38 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/08/08/a-%e2%80%9cnew-face%e2%80%9d-for-mary-jane-kelly/#comment-1959 Just wondering- there seems to be a French connection constantly running through MJK's alleged life story. Her death certificate gives her name as Marie Jeanette, and this is the name on her coffin. Was she actually half French? Was her supposed journey to France to see maternal relations? And who was the mysterious French woman who had MJK's dresses in the West End? MJK is said to have had a speech impediment. Allowing for her false teeth distorting her speech, did she also have a trace of French accent mingled with Irish, and possibly Welsh? Should we be searching for baptismal records of a Marie Jeanette in Ireland as well as France? Another thought- "Collyer" ( with several variations of spelling) is a surname. Was this the surname of Mary's husband, rather than his occupation? Did Mary divulge snippets of her biography in drunken rambling to Joe Barnett, who tried to keep it coherently in his memory? Just wondering- there seems to be a French connection constantly running through MJK’s alleged life story. Her death certificate gives her name as Marie Jeanette, and this is the name on her coffin. Was she actually half French? Was her supposed journey to France to see maternal relations? And who was the mysterious French woman who had MJK’s dresses in the West End? MJK is said to have had a speech impediment. Allowing for her false teeth distorting her speech, did she also have a trace of French accent mingled with Irish, and possibly Welsh? Should we be searching for baptismal records of a Marie Jeanette in Ireland as well as France? Another thought- “Collyer” ( with several variations of spelling) is a surname. Was this the surname of Mary’s husband, rather than his occupation? Did Mary divulge snippets of her biography in drunken rambling to Joe Barnett, who tried to keep it coherently in his memory?

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Comment on The Question of Jack the Ripper and the Jews by alanbstardmp http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/07/29/the-question-of-jack-the-ripper-and-the-jews/#comment-1956 alanbstardmp Thu, 02 Jan 2014 19:30:21 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/07/29/the-question-of-jack-the-ripper-and-the-jews/#comment-1956 quote " I have no doubt that Sir Robert Anderson in his attitudes and actions reflected some of the prejudices of the day. How could he not do so? He was undoubtedly a Christian gentlemen but his hard-line statement that poor Polish Jews would not give up one of their own to Gentile Justice certainly betrays a somewhat strait-laced individual in viewing the immigrant Jewish question if not outright bigotry. " Not so. Even today Jews often will not give up their own to gentile civil justice quote

” I have no doubt that Sir Robert Anderson in his attitudes and actions reflected some of the prejudices of the day. How could he not do so? He was undoubtedly a Christian gentlemen but his hard-line statement that poor Polish Jews would not give up one of their own to Gentile Justice certainly betrays a somewhat strait-laced individual in viewing the immigrant Jewish question if not outright bigotry. ”

Not so. Even today Jews often will not give up their own to gentile civil justice

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Comment on Richard Walter and an Alleged “Secret” Letter of 1888 at Scotland Yard by admin http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/12/01/richard-walter-and-an-alleged-secret-letter-of-1888-at-scotland-yard/#comment-1952 admin Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:12:13 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/12/01/richard-walter-and-an-alleged-secret-letter-of-1888-at-scotland-yard/#comment-1952 Hi Mike I am not in the least saying that Richard Walter made up this story. Rather I believe he told us the story in good faith just as it was told to him. It's just that the narrative comes across as being somewhat wild and unbelievable. Best regards Chris Hi Mike

I am not in the least saying that Richard Walter made up this story. Rather I believe he told us the story in good faith just as it was told to him. It’s just that the narrative comes across as being somewhat wild and unbelievable.

Best regards

Chris

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Comment on Richard Walter and an Alleged “Secret” Letter of 1888 at Scotland Yard by Mike Rodelli http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/12/01/richard-walter-and-an-alleged-secret-letter-of-1888-at-scotland-yard/#comment-1951 Mike Rodelli Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:48:42 +0000 http://blog.casebook.org/chrisgeorge/2011/12/01/richard-walter-and-an-alleged-secret-letter-of-1888-at-scotland-yard/#comment-1951 I've known Richard since 2004 when he did a profile on the Zodiac killer and shared it with me. His profile was of a killer who was the exact opposite of what people had believed about Zodiac for years. He also endorsed my research on that case in "The Murder Room." I still speak to him regularly. I can't recall what year it was but I am going to guess it was in 2007 or 2008 that Richard told me a story about the JTR case. I remember exactly where I was when I spoke to him but for some odd reason I can't recall the details of what he told me. I believe it had to do with Druitt's uncle or brother and his role in Druitt making the decision to drown himself. I think the letter comes from this relative, as I recall. At any rate, the point I'd like to make is that it would shock the hell out of me to learn that Richard had forged this letter or that he was making anything up. Like me, he is way too straight a shooter to do that. I just don't see him having to make himself anymore interesting than he already is. ;) His reputation is everything in his field, so I can't imagine why he'd make something like this up. Just my two cents. Mike I’ve known Richard since 2004 when he did a profile on the Zodiac killer and shared it with me. His profile was of a killer who was the exact opposite of what people had believed about Zodiac for years. He also endorsed my research on that case in “The Murder Room.” I still speak to him regularly.

I can’t recall what year it was but I am going to guess it was in 2007 or 2008 that Richard told me a story about the JTR case. I remember exactly where I was when I spoke to him but for some odd reason I can’t recall the details of what he told me. I believe it had to do with Druitt’s uncle or brother and his role in Druitt making the decision to drown himself. I think the letter comes from this relative, as I recall.

At any rate, the point I’d like to make is that it would shock the hell out of me to learn that Richard had forged this letter or that he was making anything up. Like me, he is way too straight a shooter to do that. I just don’t see him having to make himself anymore interesting than he already is. ;) His reputation is everything in his field, so I can’t imagine why he’d make something like this up.

Just my two cents.

Mike

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